Deep Church 6

Grizzly Bear – Two Weeks

While I’ve read both chapters, I don’t see how I can meaningfully post about both.  Each one has loads to consider, so we’ll do one today and the next sometime soon.

Maybe chapter six should have been called conversations with Brian McLaren about the nature of the Gospel.  Don’t get me wrong, I understand why Belcher has chosen to spend so much time talking about him.  McLaren is rightly (and wrongly) seen as the representative of the Emerging Church.

So keeping in the spirit of the chapter, I’ll give you my take on McLaren.  I’ve read a couple books by him, both of which I have found thought provoking.  And there is no doubt that he is “emerging” in the truest sense of the word.  One very much gets the sense when reading his books that this is a guy in process, and that we are sitting in – so to speak – as he sorts things out.  Of course, this can either be seen as refreshing or maddening.  Just depends on how you look at it.

Several months ago, I had the opportunity to hear him speak at a one day conference for church leaders.  And everything I found present in his writing was true in person as well.  First of all, he’s brilliant.  I don’t agree with him on all the positions he takes.  There are a number of things about his content and style that don’t sit quite right with me.  But the list of people I’ve encountered who are able to synthesize huge amounts of information from a wide range of disciplines…  history, philosophy, politics, economics, theology…  is very, very short.

He is also winsome.  You just sort of like the guy.  I could have done without the Gregorian chanting.  Or some of the kookier theories he’d formulated about “story spaces.”  But he is a far cry from the demonized portrait that some might paint of him.

Is he wrong about some things?  I think so.  Occasionally, I feel like his way of knowing (look at me trying to avoid the word “epistemology”) flows more out of philosophical constructs than a deeply rooted biblical story.  I am certain that he wouldn’t appreciate that assessment.  He would say of me that my agenda and worldview is shaped by a certain philosophical commitment that pushes me to understand the Scriptures a certain way.  I would respond in kind.  And away we would go.  Do I think he skirts too close to universalism?  Yes.  Do I think he downplays the Atonement and the individual’s response to work of Christ?  Yes.  Do I think that he is trying to work out a thoroughly Christ-centered and Christ-honoring way of being human?  YES.  In short, he’s worth listening to, but take him with a grain of salt.  My sense is Belcher feels the same.

So back to the conversation at hand…  the Gospel.  Specifically, the Deep Gospel.  I’ll be brief.  I agree completely that the evangelical church in recent history has been too narrowly focused on the individual salvation experience.  I also agree that a more holistic understanding of Kingdom of God needs to be taught and embraced in churches today.  And yes, there is always the danger that we will swing too far the other way of making the gospel entirely social and going the way of protestant liberalism.

That said, I don’t agree entirely with where Belcher lands with respect to atonement theory.  He cites Richard Mouw as saying that while the various theories all hold some truth, they aren’t all equally valid.  Mouw says that it is a matter of priority.  Which is primary or most important?  He and Belcher believe that the Christus Victor understanding of Christ’s work on the cross, while true, is dependent on a thoroughly penal substitutionary view of atonement.  I was unconvinced and would actually argue that it is the other way around.  Anyway, as you can see, I’ve been reduced to theological hair-splitting.

I don’t think that the feedback is going to be overwhelming.  The conversation about worship has potential to be more lively.  But here’s your chance to say what you appreciate about McLaren…  or don’t.  Or we could talk about how your understanding of the “gospel” has changed over time.

christmas joy

Each year, as a family we try to be proactive in our celebration of Christmas.  This go around we are choosing to focus on the “joy” that Christmas brings.  For us that will mean doing things like finding joy in our time in the Word, having family times of worship, and of course joy-filled celebration with loved ones.

Our efforts have been multiplied this year by something several friends are taking part in which is conveniently named The Joy Project.  While I’m not the sort of person who takes great delight in dancing, the rest of my family is.  So for that reason, I love it.

But I’ve been on the lookout for anything else that brings a smile to my face this Christmas season.

Here’s one I saw today that I’m not quite sure what to make of.  It is equal parts amusing and disturbing.  I love when classics are updated…  not so sure about this one.  That said, we could probably all use a little more techno in our lives.

Deep Church 4 and 5

Sufjan Stevens – O Holy Night

First, I’m not sure I got word out to everyone, but the pace of one chapter a week was killing me softly.  So we are going to ratchet it up to a whopping two per week.

Second, it seems that an apology is necessary.  Any book that has the words – epistemology, postfoundationalist, constructivism, hermeneutic, propositionalism – all in the same chapter has intruded on one’s right to read books without requiring the use of wikipedia in order to understand it.  Maybe if he had started with the Crystal Meth to Christ bit, this transgression could have been overlooked.  But he didn’t, so it isn’t.

Third, he is right.  As far as I’m concerned, his description of how we know truth really isn’t up for debate.  To put it as succinctly as I can…  there is a Reality, and yet that reality comes to us filtered.  Our backgrounds, experiences, levels of understanding, mood all color how we “see” things.  And naturally, our groups (church, family, school, peers, etc…) are crucial for forming our understandings of reality.  Like Belcher, I would be hesitant to go along with the thinking that reality is determined by our communities.  Instead, I would affirm that there is a reality, but it always comes interpreted.

If that is so, then the it seems like “Deep Evangelism” is the logical next step.  Since our perception of reality is hopelessfully shaped by community, then it just makes sense to allow belonging to precede belief.  Not that beliefs don’t matter, but how can one sort our what they believe unless they have a place in which to do so?  The image of Rodin’s Thinker which captures the ideal of the individual’s ability to discern truth simply isn’t true.  Not now… and not then.

So I’m not sure any of this invites much conversation.  Maybe the questions are more along the lines of “so what?”  If that’s all true, then how does that affect the way we live?  How we worship?  How we pursue friendships?  How we parent?  How we live out mission?

I have had the benefit of being able to discuss the content of the book with individuals and groups.  I wish you the same.